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If they're censoring it, they're censoring it from their own people as well. My childhood best friend lives in Shanghai and is reporting that things are pretty much back to normal there. Businesses are open again, people are in the streets like normal, etc. This was his report from this morning after we inquired for more information last night.

He says they are not completely relaxed in public, but getting there. They still observe social distancing. But from his understanding, infection rates are way down all around China.

[zabana]

These are the kinds of reports we need to hear about, not the "some of the (almost always unnamed) experts say that <insert baseless alarmist prediction>" type.

So yeah we need reports from the ground, if anybody reading this is in China please chime in and give us a quick rundown of the situation over there. Thanks

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I'll put his entire report for us all...

>>People back home have asked me for updates from 'ahead of the curve' in China so here is today's: China has added USA to the list of mandatory quarantines. My friend just arrived yesterday to Shanghai from the Bay Area and was taken from the airport to a testing facility and was then put under a 14-day quarantine at his apartment in Shanghai (even though he tested negative). Meanwhile, those of us out of quarantine are free to move around the city with our green cards. And many are indeed choosing to do so while still observing social distancing. Infection rates are way down all across China.

He goes on to say the following in two of his responses below...

In regards to how long

>>China was worst around early February. So I'd guess at least a month to get over the hump.

In regards to a 2nd outbreak coming

>>Have not heard that at all. I wouldn't say it's 'relaxed' more like 'beginning to relax a bit'

That's all I got from the ground.

[azurezyq]

My parents are in China (Shandong province) and they are free to travel across cities. Restrictions (aka lockdowns) are lifted and cities are getting busy again. Generally, back to normal, aside from school closures.

Most recent news from this morning: Schools are opening across the country in stages from April. This is strong signal. I don't think "coverup" and "school opening" can do together because viruses won't listen to either CCP or Trump.

As a Chinese with so many friends in China, I would say that articles from WSJ/NYT about China may not reflect the reality. They are telling the truth, but there are many truths and reporters just want to pick whatever they want. E.g., there are sad stories for sure, but there are also plenty of moving good stories. In this mixed-up world I found it very difficult to find real "objective" reports, aside from your own eyes...

[zabana]

Yes absolutely this the reason why I refrain from basing my opinions solely on the reports coming from western outlets, they've been notoriously known for practicing "lying by omission" essentially stating true facts while completely disregarding other important factors and details that would otherwise go against whatever narrative they are trying to push on their readership.

Thanks for the uplifting report and take care out there mate.

A fellow human