[iDemonix]

I'm still using a 2015 MacBook Pro that I'm clinging to, despite the screen having developed an annoying flicker every few minutes. I know 4 others in my office with Apple laptops, and they're all 2015 MBPs because until now, nothing else has been acceptable.

This seems to be like an answer to the "Can we just have the 2015 MBP with updated hardware?" question. Pending benchmarks, this could be the light at the end of the tunnel for a lot of users that don't need more than 16GB RAM (I'm still scraping by with Docker on my 8GB Mac and a lot of SWAP).

[_bxg1]

I love my 16" MBP, aside from the dongles situation (though I rarely need peripherals at all). It has the same keyboard mentioned here; feels great to me. The Touch Bar doesn't really bother me.

[gregkerzhner]

Recently upgraded from my 2015 15 inch MBP to the new 16 inch MBP (32 gigs of ram). Overall it big upgrade - the higher resolution and bigger screen are awesome, and my XCode builds are compiling faster. That being said, I hate the touchbar for a few reasons - Having to look at the keyboard to change volume is not an upgrade in user experience - The touchbar freezes for me once a week or so and I have to go to the command line to kill the process - The icons don't make any sense - (xcode dustcan anyone)?

Also, maybe its because I am a rock climber and my skin gets roughed up, but the finger print sensor has never worked for me on any apple products and its a waste of space. All and all though, the faster computer and bigger screen is worth it for me.

[_bxg1]

> Recently upgraded from my 2015 15 inch MBP to the new 16 inch MBP (32 gigs of ram)

Hah, that's exactly the upgrade I made except from a 2013

> Having to look at the keyboard to change volume is not an upgrade in user experience

Agreed; I wouldn't call the touch bar an upgrade, just a very tiny downgrade that doesn't matter much with the Escape key now separated back out

> The touchbar freezes for me once a week or so and I have to go to the command line to kill the process

Yikes, can't say I've had that happen :/

> The icons don't make any sense - (xcode dustcan anyone)?

You can turn off the application-specific touch bar buttons in your preferences and also customize what buttons appear. I have mine configured almost exactly like the old button top-row, except with an optional volume slider and a dedicated sleep button (which is nifty). But yes, just having the physical buttons instead would still be slightly preferable.

> the finger print sensor has never worked for me on any apple products and its a waste of space

It's just part of the normal power button, though? It doesn't take up any extra space

[gregkerzhner]

nice... thank you for finally help me get rid of those ridiculous application specific buttons.

[_bxg1]

You can also go even further and do basically whatever you want with the touch bar if you use third-party tools like BetterTouchTool. Making your own buttons with your own icons, mapping them to scripts, whatever. I haven't gone that far myself but it's an option