[mscasts]

My take is that most companies don't need a native app unless they're specifically targeting mobile users and doesn't have a need for desktop users.

So you're better off generally to make the app a web app. If that doesn't work yet, are you sure about that? With web assembly and some new browser apis it's really very few apps left that actually need the native experience.

Sure if you build apps for cars, planes or something like that I understand that you want the native experience. But there is also tons of "native with an asterisk" tools like Xamarin and React Native for example.

Sure the app may be a bit larger but do users really care? With those kind of technologies you can build native for all platforms easily.

The choice really is up to the developers and there is lots of choices nowadays, thankfully.

[Quarrelsome]

A lot of this is legacy which is why making the argument for change is one about expense. Its about justifying the expense by selling the hot path of the use-case of using technical applications on a phone. Everyone is sunk-cost fallacy here over the potential of mobile use-cases, they're dismissed as a use-case.

I vaguely bought into the idea for a while and now github are like:

> Review PRs and look at code on a mobile form factor

and now I'm like:

> oh, so that use-case is a thing?

I'm terrified some CTO in twenty years time of an org we want to sell it to will instantly shitcan our offering because it doesn't support mobile use-cases. Because mobile is their culture and the reason we don't value it today is _only_ because mobile isn't the culture we grew up with.

[cercatrova]

Well, you gotta follow the market, right? If they want mobile, then you'll have to give them mobile, lest they not buy from you. What is terrifying about that, except for not wanting to change?

[Quarrelsome]

> What is terrifying about that

Being a dinosaur and seeing a big fiery thing in the sky. Thinking maybe it'd be better to get a bit of a head start on that mammal business. But its hard to make that business case, isn't it? Thankfully this news makes it easier I guess.

[paulryanrogers]

Mobile apps are the mammals, i.e. the future?

[Quarrelsome]

ye, possibly. Perhaps when everyone starts out on phone/tablet then desktops will be seen as old and archaic. I mean its a silly example but I never see people in sci-fi sit down with a mouse and keyboard. Perhaps new generations will force in new ergonomic standards?