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by TwoNineA 2290 days ago
Let's not forget, he called the pandemic a "Democrat hoax".
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I'll repost my comment from another thread:

"Unfortunately the CDC's existence, purpose, and funding is controlled by the government. Thus any discussion of their actions becomes embroiled in the political tribalism that dominates comments.

The staunch defenders of the current administration are often successful at shutting down criticism of their leader and their party's actions. Which is doing this country a huge disservice because right now we need to be fixing these issues, not continually arguing about blame."

People responding to this comment, please stop jumping to the defense of Trump. Stop whatabouting and trying to stop people from voicing their concerns. We've got a once-in-a-century problem facing the USA and the world, and we need to put aside knee-jerk circling-of-the-wagons to protect your party/team/tribe/side.

And yet he stopped flights from China before anyone else called for it and was called racist. Check your assumptions.

Testing was botched, a lot of his statements have been terrible, but the travel bans were in the “do something that seems premature” category and deserves recognition, since it will have saved lives.

I'm not sure it was premature given it happened a week after China quarantined Wuhan.
Both statements are intentionally taken out of context for cheap partisan political points. Look in the mirror to see the problem and ask yourself what it is you are trying to accomplish with this behavior.
For anyone curious, this is a more full context:

"One of my people came up to me and said, “Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia.” That didn’t work out too well. They couldn’t do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. That was not a perfect conversation. They tried anything. They tried it over and over. They’d been doing it since you got in. It’s all turning. They lost. It’s all turning. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax. But we did something that’s been pretty amazing. We have 15 people in this massive country and because of the fact that we went early. We went early, we could have had a lot more than that. We’re doing great. Our country is doing so great. We are so unified. We are so unified. The Republican party has never ever been unified like it is now."

Sane people don't communicate this way. Even people who perform poorly when publicly speaking (such as a GW Bush, who was famous for verbal stumbling) don't begin to express themselves so chaotically with spoken words.

It's exceedingly difficult to understand this man, and I daresay that anyone who claims to really understand what he's saying (meaning) is choosing to live a fantasy.

This is true of all disastrous leaders, the provide no real leadership apart from publicly courting their acolytes.

The actual leadership they should be providing (giving clear direction to those who will be acting on their wishes) is so lacking that all the decision makers below them have to make up their own mind what the "leader" actually wants. And so ensues chaos.

I realize this is probably your point - but the statement is even WORSE with context!
Yeah, see, no they're literally not. Like, you can see them yourself (check the sibling comment for the full-context tantrum) and the argument doesn't hang, except insofar as you can claim that a guy who's regularly sundowning at noon can't have context. Which is a fair argument for cutting your racist uncle some reluctant slack, but not your President.

It's very curious how the guy's constant reality-averse shit-talking of everyone who doesn't give him everything he wants, now-now-now, is somehow not "cheap partisan points," though.

I agree that now isn't the time, let's not argue blame.

That being said, the president could have handled his response better. Poorly chosen words at a poor time make for a piss poor performance. It's, at the very least, very unfortunate.

I don’t think it’s just words anymore. It’s a failure of executive action, things did not get done
Systems > words
In this specific case, the context is fortunately irrelevant.

The statements mean exactly what they say.

fwiw, he was referring to the botched rollout of testing, not the whole thing or the market. [n]

[n] https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2020/03/13/trump-...

Would you like to provide some context? Not the OP, but it seems that this needs a national level response, and my impression is that the President is not handling things well.