[_gccu]

I don't care about "some spec". I want to know how this product, that is coming from China, isn't already tainted with the virus itself.

Your refutation to my logic is "cmmon man" ?

It would lead to what action precisely?

I'm not a pessimist. I'm trying to be pragmatic.

[fspeech]

Why not spend a little time learning how long the virus can survive on any mask before making nonsense comment like this? It deserved a stronger rebuke than "cmmon man" since it's wasting everyone's time.

[_gccu]

So if you notice, you literally defended someone's "cmmon man" argument as NOT a waste of everyone's time. How about you think about this, for a second, hmm?

Studies as of now suggest that the virus can last for 3 days on a surface. So if you ship fly them over here from China, say a half a day flight, you have a good 2.5 days to potentially accidentally infect people.

Are you going to "cmmon man" me now?

[jessaustin]

No, at this point you get a "relax, Nancy". No step in the process of manufacturing surgical masks involves anyone breathing on a mask; they have machines. Masks are never shipped by air; they're too bulky. Even items that are shipped by air take several days on the ground to be shipped from factories and to end users. Your innate fear of Chinese people has sent you off the deep end.

[_gccu]

A flight is 12 hours. Considering it's a highly urgent need for a very unique circumstance... we're not shipping, IDK, keychains or something.

[jessaustin]

Bulky non-perishable packaged manufactured goods are not shipped by air! It would add quite a bit to the cost of this gesture to rent out three 747s for shipping it.

This is pointless. If the fastest shipping method available took a month, you'd be imagining crafty sick Chinese people stowed away, breathing on the masks for the entire journey. You have a sickness, but it may not be COVID-19...

[_gccu]

You realize that there are countries that are in complete lockdown, right? These are not normal, but very serious times. If all a country had to do was pay for the use of 3 full 747s, for a mere 12 hour flight, to get a solution to save countless lives .. sounds logical to me that they'd expedite the delivery.

Due to the fact that is a very serious, urgent, global pandemic. <-- re-read the last four words in that sentence, but slowly.

It blows my mind that during this global crisis, you think that it would take a whole month just to transport life saving medical / health equipment. We're not talking about shipping handbag accessories on Amazon's third party marketplace here, Nancy.

[mythrwy]

It's not a refutation of logic though because you didn't provide any. It's simply scoffing at your ridiculous level of suspicion. You aren't being pragmatic. There is a different term for what you are being.

[_gccu]

I've said it repeatedly, but I'll say it again. Here's the logic for you to refute.

1. Mask / test kit made in China.

2. Presumably, it came in contact with the hands of the people making it, in China.

3. If any of those people making the masks and test kits were infected, then there's a chance that the virus itself will be actually sitting on the masks and test kits themselves.

So, we just ignore that?