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by joey_bob
2282 days ago
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My experiences tend to agree with the GP. One thing to consider is that the withdraw effects may be proportional more to the intensity of an addiction prior to quitting rather than the length of time addicted. If you're drinking one cup of coffee a day, but vaping the equivalent of one or more packs a day, your nicotine withdraw may be far more severe.
Conversely, if you smoke one cigarette a day, and consume the equivalent of 12 cups of coffee a day in caffeine (caffeine pills or energy drinks). This may sounds ridiculous to you, but if I were to interpolate your experience with my anecdotal sample set, it sounds as if you were vaping well over the equivalent of two packs a day. This is really extrapolation, I can't say I know anyone who has had panic attacks while going withdraw who otherwise would not have, and my sample includes people who have gone through withdraw from a pack a day + vaping.
Obviously the sample is small and anecdotal. Also, I've neglected to find supporting sources. I acknowledge that you are probably relaying the events truthfully, but you are essentially downplaying the addictive potential of caffeine here similarly to how you accuse GP of downplaying the addictive effects of nicotine. In summary, caffeine withdraw is a thing, and can be worse than nicotine withdraw. I don't think you need to have some dark motive to state that. |
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When I vaped, my brain was on fire inside of an hour and a half. I couldn't get through a movie. I'd wake up in the middle of the night to vape. That has never happened to me with caffeine. There is no comparison. And I was vaping 3mg/ml liquid for the longest time. I can't imagine what the hit from a Juul or any nicotine salt vape is like in comparison.
Everyone is different. But trying to find out if you're a person who can use nicotine without becoming hopelessly addicted is like lighting firecrackers in your hand to see if you're the kind of person who won't lose their fingers when it blows up. It's stupid and it's comments like the one I originally replied to, downplaying the potential for addiction, that helped me talk myself into it in the first place. After I'd had a few hits.
I just hate seeing that in a place like this, with an ostensibly educated userbase.
Frankly there's also abundant scientific research to back up just how hideously addictive nicotine is. I shouldn't have to supply all my anecdotes but hearing this community discuss how it really isn't so bad makes me so anxious that someone might actually believe it and start to use.
I hope if someone is reading this and thinking about starting to vape that it makes them think again. Don't. It's awful.