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by dexen 2288 days ago
>That ship has sailed.

Not in the least.

"Cloud" is merely the modern spin on "terminal in the office, mainframe at the HQ". We moved from terminals to local mini/microcomputers back then, and we will move from "cloud" to edge computing again. Notably, serverless and "installable web apps" are already a growing thing.

And no, Sun, the network is the computer will not come to pass during this cycle.
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yjftsjthsd-h 2288 days ago
>> That ship has sailed.

AWS makes up a massive fraction of the whole internet. That ship has absolutely not sailed. If your company doesn't own the mainframe, it doesn't control the hardware.

> And no, Sun, the network is the computer will not come to pass during this cycle.

... we are arguing about this via web browser. O365, Google docs, Dropbox, iCloud and company are common ways to work with documents, SaaS has been a wild success in business, and major players (no pun intended) are pushing game streaming. The network isn't the only computer, but for a lot of people it's the main one.

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dexen 2288 days ago
>If your company doesn't own the mainframe

The historical mainframes usually were rented from IBM and the likes. Less sunk investment, less reasons to stick with it.

>we are arguing about this via web browser

Which works equally well for remote AND local resources. Electron is popular for a reason.

All the centralized services - online Docs, Dropbox, Github etc., - are more subject to disruption and replacement than they would want you to believe.

SaaS has been a success in the same way "bring your own device" was a success - an end-run around the ossified, slow-moving and bureaucratic ICT department. It was nimble, fast and elastic; allowed for quick iteration and experimentation. Now that the SaaS is a big game, it's subject to the very same kind of disruption.

Take a look around, you'll see people using local Git repositories, and locally hosted web-based services to get shit done. Just to avoid the hassle of procurement & upkeep of big-name SaaS. Containers let you move the data & code to unmanaged iron where it's close to the user, instead of one big managed datacenter. SaaS and datacenter computing is not nimble anymore; local is nimble, and Google Stadia delivered the eulogy.

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bitwize 2288 days ago
> And no, Sun,

Now that's a ship that has sailed.

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gowld 2288 days ago
It's a sun that has set.
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