[mattrp]

Of course. Keep in mind, I'm not saying that this situation isn't serious. I'm saying I have sufficient faith in the framework of the United States, even in light of the virus, that I'm not willing to trade it for the frameworks of China and South Korea. I'm also not saying necessarily anything derogative about either of those countries.

[taurath]

Not to be blasé, but its clear you're not a wage worker. Many people will be out of a job and be unable to pay rent. I have several friends who are ALREADY in the process of being laid off as businesses around Seattle practically shutter. We need a rent/mortgage holiday for both people and businesses in order to keep things afloat.

[rayhendricks]

I’m perfectly fine with a >=50% loss in the market if it gets us to consider national paid sick leave and Medicare for all seriously.

We need to seriously reconsider the incentives of those who even if tested positive for Coronavirus would still not be able to miss work.

This is coming from someone whose nominal 401k portfolio is going down a Tesla per day. Why am I not upset?? — the infrastructure is still there; iMessage still works, AWS still works, there are still oil rigs in operation, it is just the amount of money we are willing to pay for securities has changed.

[stjohnswarts]

The problems is those people who don't like paid sick leave and m4a are zealots and it will take more than a pandemic to change their minds. They mind agree that government should help out when it comes to depression era issues but otherwise they don't want anything like that in "normal" economic times. I think the progressive mindset that most people have on reddit and HN are really only 10-20% of the population.

[taurath]

The primary organizing unit of the united states is the Business, not the family nor the individual.

[mattrp]

No I’m just a business owner who hasn’t paid himself a salary in over a year despite paying the salaries of many others. But yes let’s just keep throwing out those stereotypes. I am deeply concerned both for myself, my family, my church (which has so many 80+ year olds it might cease to exist in 90 days), my colleagues who my ability to pay is rapidly dwindling, etc.

[brianwawok]

If you aren’t paying yourself a salary it’s not a business, it’s a hobby. Which is fine, but it’s a different thing.

[mercer]

So you were correctly 'stereotyped' and decide that the best response is to complain about that?