[NyxWulf]

Reading the quote from Kick https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22539826 doesn't say that. It seems a bit off base to me, but so what? People aren't all good or all bad. They aren't an authority on everything they have an opinion on. That is what makes appeal to authority so dangerous. I don't think it's possible for any strong opinion to please everyone. To me the question really does boil down to whether freedom of speech is truly supported within the open source community. True freedom of speech allows all opinions, even the disgusting ones so that hair splitting censorship can't drown out dissent.

[tedivm]

I'm not aware of any organization that promotes "true freedom of speech" to that extreme. I don't want the government shutting ESR down, but I would never hire someone who has said what he says about race, gender, or sexuality.

The OSI has their own rights as well, and part of their own freedom of speech is that they get to chose who does or doesn't use their platform for speech.

[NyxWulf]

> I'm not aware of any organization that promotes "true freedom of speech" to that extreme. I don't want the government shutting ESR down, but I would never hire someone who has said what he says about race, gender, or sexuality.

Promoting something isn't the same thing as supporting or allowing it. Many mailing lists have allowed a self governing style of free speech. If you don't want to hear from someone, you add then to your banlist. The extreme and consistently offensive get marginalized by each person, rather than by a singular authority.

Your comment about never hiring someone who was said what ESR says about race, gender, or sexuality is a broad and unspecific brush. I've read the links provided, what specifically did he say, and when that would make him un-hireable forever?

[tedivm]

His comments on women along are disqualifying-

> "Try to avoid even being alone, ever, because there is a chance that a 'women in tech' advocacy group is going to try to collect your scalp."

In my job I regularly have to talk to women. I wouldn't hire a developer who treated half the population differently. That's just one example too.

[catalogia]

'Don't be alone with other people' is not exactly radical advice. I've had plenty of managers who said things very similar to that, or acted in ways that seemed informed by advice like that (for instance, making a point of holding one-on-one meetings in rooms with glass doors or walls.) The proliferation of glass-walls in workplaces is probably more than just a in-vogue aesthetic. I think a lot of people see value in having third party witnesses when in potentially confrontational scenarios.