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by Fnoord 2293 days ago
To complete GAFAN/GAFAM or whatever it is called there's also one for Amazon [1] and Microsoft [2] (I wouldn't care to avoid tracking by Apple or Netflix).

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/contain-amazo...

[2] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/microsoft-con...

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Why is it OK to be track by Apple or Netflix?
> Why is it OK to be track by Apple or Netflix?

That is not what I asserted.

I asserted I don't care about it. I don't believe Netflix tracks me outside of .netflix.com and I don't believe Apple tracks me outside of .apple.com (and the other domains ofc). If they do, you have to convince me it is harming my interests (ie. my privacy or freedom of choice).

I know Google tracks me, I know Facebook tracks me. Their profit model is surrounded by this tracking. I know Amazon and Microsoft track me. Their profit model partly relies on tracking.

Now that Apple is forcing app developers to use Sign in with Apple -- and developers will have to also allow it on their websites so you can access your account there -- Apple will be able to use the Sign in with Apple javascript they serve to track you around the web just like Facebook and Google do, even if you don't use any Apple products.
While this is true, it is obvious how the other names he listed would benefit from such tracking. It is not clear to me why Apple would do this, as it runs opposite of their product marketing, and their business model does not obviously benefit from tracking the way the others do.
I didn't say they would or should. Just that they will be able to.
But there are thousands big ones out there. Cloudflare, Cloudfront, Baidu, Yandex, Akamai, Tencent, Twitter, Yahoo, Disqus, Uber, Airbnb, Pinterest etc. Why bring up Apple and Netflix specifically?
Going for the high trees instead of low hanging fruit. Why? On average, larger impact.

There's Invidation addon to avoid Twitter/YouTube and redirect to Nitter/Invidious, and there's some addons to avoid CDNs such as Cloudflare / Amazon/ Akamai. There's also an addon to remove garbage in URLs such as AMP (I mean, wtf?).

If you want to avoid these completely, plus GAFAM, your internet (browsing) experience isn't annoying; it is broken.

I avoid Uber/Airbnb/Pinterest already (niches I don't care about) and Yandex/Baidu is not meant for my demographics.

If Baidu, Tencent, Cloudflare etc are "low hanging fruit" then Netflix is an even lower hanging fruit. It's just a streaming service. Even Twitch has a wider audience than them. Which is the reason I was confused why you brought those two up specifically, instead of the bigger players who are way more ubiquitous.

Invidition is just a wrapper. Doesn't solve the larger problem which is what's happening on the server. Last time I tried it YouTube was completely broken because Google changed a tiny little thing.

Obviously Netflix is low hanging fruit. Its just that people use the term GAFAN sometimes, and sometimes GAFAM. I don't know the exact logic of why using one or the other, so I did mention Netflix and Microsoft.

Twitch is Amazon.

I'm aware of wrapper usage. I just use youtube-dl from CLI whenever I see a YouTube linked referenced which should interest me.

netflix is the N and apple is an A in GAFAN
Probably because there are containerizer addons for Apple and Netflix, specifically, and not for the other sites you mention.