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by comboy 2294 days ago
I use FF, I don't use FB, but I still think this is wrong. Browser is not a place to decide which companies are good and which are bad. As much as I despise Facebook I still don't think it's fair.

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it". All companies should have the same access to the technology in user's browser. Favoring Google by Chrome seems no different than blocking Facebook by Firefox. It's the same behavior, just a difference in opinions.

edit: to clarify, I am in agreement with the parent comment, the above is just about Facebook container being a feature

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It's wrong for the browser to give me a way to containerize whatever domain I want?
At first glance, this seems to be pretty opinionated, with a hip 30 second commercial

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/facebookcontainer/

Absolutely not, but you should be the one choosing the domain.
I am, Firefox doesn't do this by default.
Facebook Container is an optional extension, not installed by default. And you can write your own extension for different domains. In fact, people have created several such extensions, such as Google Container, Temporary Containers, and others. It's true though that the Facebook Container extension is actively marketed by Mozilla.
Even it were true, which is not, Facebook had been anything but fair to its users (and non users) in case you didn’t get a chance to follow the news. Since Mozilla is all about user’s privacy and safety online and Facebook is such a huge menace than it actually makes sense to offer a targeted solution. But again, it’s just an implementation of a container, nothing specific to Facebook.
He is not saying for the browser to do it automatically out of the box. He wants to be able to configure the browser with a list of domains. That is perfectly reasonable.
How is this tantamount to deciding which companies are good and bad? Mozilla have simply identified an extremely common way people are tracked online and are doing their best to contain it.
Same rules should apply to everybody. You should be able to decide some rules, even heuristics that can catch tracking across multiple sites and suggest user to disable it rather than pointing to entity and applying different rules to it than to everybody else.
No, they shouldnt. Everybody isnt the problem, its large scale privacy destroying services that are the problem.

Singling out facebook and google would absolutely be correct actions, and making it more obvious to users how to do that is a net good.

FYI the facebook container is an addon one has to download and enable, it's not built-in.
That makes perfect sense then.
You can set up containers for every domain you like. Facebook just comes as a predefined option because 90% of users are going to choose that domain anyway.
You realize Facebook Container is not part of Firefox, it's an extension you have to install yourself.
Define what you mean by "fair". It is Mozilla's (right) opinion that Facebook is a hugely corrupt corporation and entity, the technology itself doesn't just work on Fedbook, they just use Fedbook as their prime example.