[smartstakestime]

do you work with Laravel ... it has not advanced dev quality of life. It has great marketing and has grabbed a % of the dev base so lots of people work with it. It has done nothing better than symfony, codeigniter, Zendframework.

I feel it breeds bad coding habbits, many coders like it simplicity but when they use it they implement many inefficient functions, mostly around querying the database. Laravel has this robust query builder api so you have many novices accessing the database through it without understanding what they are doing.

I dont really know what "quality of life" is provided by Laravel. Its just another MVC.

[jjeaff]

Quality of life is better because you can build so much, so quickly with laravel. There is a ton that laravel can bootstrap for you out of the box and then add to that the very large ecosystem of plugins that has come out of the community.

[paulryanrogers]

Like Rails it can provide a lot of structure and packages for the routine requirements. It's ORM isn't much better or worse than others I've used.

The alternatives remain popular, if less so since Laravel's marketing has kicked in. To each their own.