[p_l]

Openshift wraps around Kubernetes, with some of their own special offering stuff on it. Generally, plain K8s is a building block - RedHat made Openshift with a bunch of opinionated choices, geared towards enterprise deployments, some of them migrating later to Kubernetes itself (OpenShift's Route inspired K8s' Ingress), some OpenShift cribs from K8s (Istio becoming part of OpenShift by default in OS 4).

Generally OpenShift heavily targets enterprises as "All-in-One" package. Some of that works, some doesn't, but honestly it's often more a case of the IT dept that manages the install ;)

Except installing OpenShift. That's horrific. Someone should repent for the install process, seriously.

[Conan_Kudo]

Even with OpenShift 4? I thought it was pretty nice and straightforward, to be honest...

[p_l]

I have yet to touch OpenShift 4 - every environment that used OpenShift that I worked with professionally except for some testing runs was air-gapped to some extent from internet, something that is not supported on OpenShift 4, and which was treated as a crucial requirement by the customer deploying OpenShift.

[smarterclayton]

Airgapped is now available in 4.3 (although it has some rough edges that will be addressed in 4.4).

[p_l]

Oh, that's a good news. Just this friday when I first looked into OpenShift install, it looked like it wasn't even in the plans, so I might have hit older docs than I intended.

Makes for higher possibility that $DAYJOB upgrades to OpenShift 4.x, but then, we would rather get rid of our (intra-group) provider and their openshift environments...

[freedomben]

The OpenShift 3 way of using Ansible playbooks was bad, and is now gone with OpenShift 4. It's a binary installer that you run. Much easier IMHO.