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by DubiousPusher 2302 days ago
That's not necessarily true. Work ethic is not derived only from the notion that people need to work. It is derived from an ethical imperative and from a sense of achievement people get from work. Also, any UBI would likely be well under the amount of money necessary to live a middle class life. I myself was on SSI and could have found a way to subsist on it but really did not want to live that way. I got to know a lot of other people on SSI as well and they mostly felt the same. Most were looking for a way to make enough money to get off government assistance. This was substantially affected by the fact that the government takes 50 cents for every dollar you make. For me, living in Montana, this meant I could go to work for $5.15/hour minimum wage. I could earn $40 a day and lose $20 from my benefit. If you want to talk about a benefit system designed to disincentive work you'd have a hard time inventimg a better one than we have now.
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The proposed monthly amount was €2,300 in Switzerland when they had a referendum on the issue in 2016. That is enough to have a more than decent living.

Work ethic might be engrained into our culture, but someone who is brought up in a society where UBI is normal and they are just a few years away from becoming "rich", I think not-working-ever is a very enticing idea and many teens will fall into that trap.

#1 You're citing the highest possible individual example I know of. Most tests I've seen range from $300-$1,200 per month in wealthy countries.

#2 Switzerland has a very high cost of living so I'm not sure 2,300 Swiss Francs is that high.

#3 Your second paragraph is 100% begging the question. I'm open to the idea that UBI might be good or bad for work ethic but there simply is not enough data for you to have the confidence you do in your conclusion.