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by ozfive 2290 days ago
Why are they not appealing to the major cloud providers at this time to use any spare resources couldn't they set it up so that the cloud providers could count using resources as donation to a charity?
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Google has just done this with AlphaFold a few minutes ago:

https://deepmind.com/research/open-source/computational-pred...

It's just so fresh it hasn't been posted anywhere yet:

"Normally we’d wait to publish this work until it had been peer-reviewed for an academic journal. However, given the potential seriousness and time-sensitivity of the situation, we’re releasing the predicted structures as we have them now, under an open license so that anyone can make use of them."

Kudos to Google for doing this. It is so much more effective to marshall a small number of extremely powerful cloud providers backed by very qualified and active techies, than a large number of weak providers (people using their home machines).
Not quite, Google are running their own code.
I agree that the wording could have been be better. "This" here referring to the link after the :, not the folding@home project.

I wonder how AlphaFold compares.

That's very newsworthy. Hope the prediction system is accurate enough to help.
Cloud providers do not have much unused resource. Tricks like spot instances make sure that they are as close to 100% utilization as possible while still being able to handle a spike in demand.
Can I spin up instances and write it off for charity as a business?
There should be no need to write it off as charity. If you spin up instances, it's a cost which gets written off as any other cost. If you use those for folding at home, that's your (business') thing. (Obviously, this is generalized and your local tax situation may differ)
That’s their point. If you’re billed for instances, but those instances are used for charity and can be written off taxes, then why not? Tax write off donations in the form of product usually help clear out stock/keep things moving. They’re like a guaranteed sale. So it may be best to appeal to the providers of the instances.
Business expenses (for the company spinning up instances) are already written off taxes, which is what ozfive was talking about.

Do you mean that the cloud provider can write off that income as charitable donation?

In the US you wouldn't be able to write that bill off as a legitimate business expense. The auditor would ask "What legitimate business purpose does this represent?" and they wouldn't have an answer.
Do you know that as a fact? If so, how?
Amazon, Google, Microsoft, whomever could just gift some data centers to the protein folding effort.

It'd be amazing PR bang for the buck.