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by cxr 2294 days ago
It doesn't help that multiple Oracle/Sun folks—including people like McNealy—said under oath that they don't believe that the licensing permits you to make commercial use, even if you opt for the GPL version.
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At the time Google screwed Sun, the GPL version did not cover the deployment into embedded platforms, only desktop and servers.

OpenJDK license is another matter.

I don't know what you're referring to, but FSF does not allow the GPL be used in such a way that the four freedoms are compromised by the licensor imposing additional restrictions.
Except that there are plenty of dual licenses with GPL-exception clauses and Java was one of them back then.

It is up to the courts and copyright holder to decided what to do with their IP.

First, you didn't describe an exception; you described additional restrictions. But now you're pivoting to talk about exceptions.

These are fundamentally different things. One enlarges the set of actions a recipient is free to do relative to what vanilla GPL allows. This is permitted (and in the case of the classpath exception, endorsed) by FSF. The other attempts to shrink the size of that set by denying the user things that the GPL would otherwise allow. The FSF simply does not permit the GPL to be used in that combination (and there would be extreme contrast in your last sentence and the failure to recognize the FSF's say in this).

And secondly, you've yet to substantiate your claim that Java was ever distributed with such GPL-modifying restrictions.

Well, I let Gosling speak about Google's then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYw3X4RZv6Y&feature=youtu.be...

How about a straightforward response, rather than trying to change the subject again?

What's more, I've seen this interview multiple times. Listening to Gosling stutter and be coy is not illuminating in the least. He has no idea how to answer the question he was asked, much less what's being discussed here now.

Can you substantiate your claim or not?