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by JumpCrisscross 2302 days ago
> Investing under $1000, especially with commission-free trades, is a good way to learn the basics mechanics of stock trading

Individual investors are at a huge disadvantage when it comes to intraday trading.

For everything other than a child's hobby account, intended to teach emotional stability through gains and losses, a <$1,000 stock-trading account is value destroying.

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so again

you want me to risk > $1000 when I don't know what I'm doing with a real brokerage that I don't know what their benefit is over something like Robinhood because.... ?

I'm willing to loose a couple hundred to learn and understand something vs giving someone I don't know thousands and "trusting" their opinion.

More so - testing the waters myself may not make me as good as someone who does this for a living - but maybe after a few hundred and a few months, at least I have a better understanding of what a real brokerage tells me to buy than to just blindly say take my money and quadruple it.

> what a real brokerage tells me to buy

Brokers should never be telling individual investors what individual stocks to buy, at least not anyone with less than ~$500,000 in assets. If a brokerage is giving you buy/sell lines for individual securities, that's a red flag.

A good investment platform (or adviser) guides you in portfolio management. In encourages long-term strategic thinking over short-term trading highs. The former builds wealth. The latter lines professional traders' pockets.

Why would you play with real money to learn instead of doing simulated trades? You can set up a paper trading account with Interactive Brokers for free. If simulated trading doesn't feel "real enough" because there are no stakes, then I don't think it's about learning.

You can learn the ropes without wasting money.

That education, for a child or an adult, is primarily what one gains from a <$1k trading account. That, alone, is worth more than $1k.

Also, one need not trade a small account intraday. I make small trades, but they are always with a multi-year perspective. Give me limit orders and small commissions, and I am happy.

(N.B. I use a different broker/don't have a first-hand perspective on Robinhood.)

Unrelated but usually you should place a market order usually, not limit. Limit orders take longer to fill, your idea of limits is probably wrong and will lose money compared to a fair market match, it's not worth taking the risk that your order won't be filled, etc.
If an order isn't filled at a price at which I find reasonable, that is okay with me. A market order will fill at any price. I learned that lesson the day that a market order of mine filled at a price I deemed unreasonable.

The key to avoiding faffing around with limit orders not filling when you want immediate execution is to place a reasonable limit that accounts for the day's volatility. At other times, I'll place a limit order and let it stand for weeks. When it fills, the counterparty and I are both happy.

Different strokes I guess. Getting into/out of the position is my top priority and I see more downside in failing to fill the order than in failing to shave a penny or two.
Totally agreed on different strokes. If speed matters most, there's nothing like a market order.

I'm rarely using limit orders to shave pennies if I want quick execution. I use them to prevent the unexpected. Under normal market conditions, if the limit is set 10% beyond the expected clearing price, it provides me with free protection against a completely unexpected surprise. Something will have to have gone very wrong with my investment strategies if I'm desperate to buy/sell at any price.

In the long-game case, if I purchase a stock at $0.95 that I think can sell for $0.99, I'll immediately place the limit-order for sale as soon as I've made the purchase. No need to hide my hand -- I'll be happy if you want to buy it at that price (and I might get faster execution by being earlier in the order queue).

Many people are not actively investing on a daily basis. Trading long and adjusting positions occasionally is not value destroying.