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by Ididntdothis 2304 days ago
“he gave himself an A for his execution of its operations, and an F for his choice of successor.”

That alone disqualifies him as a leader “I did everything right but others screwed it up”.

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And to be clear he was absolutely lying about that. Immelt was certainly a problematic leader, but a lot of the problems with GE happened under Welch. The biggest issue with GE was massive insurance liabilities for assisted living insurance which drastically exceeded anything GE predicted.

Well Welch started the insurance business in GE and took on a lot of these liabilities.

And while Immelt certainly had his problems, his mistakes were basically in the fact that he continued the Welch strategy rather than make new types of mistakes.

I remember people like Suze Orman were always handwringing since the 1990s about "Why doesn't the market take off in long-term care insurance?"

The obvious answer is that it doesn't work. One is that inevitably you get done in by cost disease, the other is that LTC insurance has a narrow market of people that can afford it but are not rich enough that they don't need it.

It is a deeper problem than that. Why buy insurance when you can create a trust to hide your assets and have the taxpayer pay? (Once you’re broke, you go on Medicaid)

There’s no nice nursing home or homecare. You just need enough money to get in, and the provider can’t kick you out. If you have a good support network, the only “enhanced” level of care is hiring people off the books with cash.

> And to be clear he was absolutely lying about that.

So his legacy is not only a management style that imploded and dismantled a collosal corporation but also him being the kind of person that throws people under the bus, including his closest associates and hand-picked successors.

Furthermore, people asked Jack Welch about the GE Capital spin-off and he said he agreed it was the right decision for the business. So I find it contradictory how Welch could feel bad while agreeing with major strategic decisions. Was it an execution problem? Because no amount of execution would have saved GE Capital given all the scathing criticisms I read. The entire financial sector became hazardous waste during the financial crisis, so unless GE Capital was as strong as a top tier Wall St bank it wasn't about to survive I'd imagine.
What story does the evidence tell you?

If you're going to disqualify someone as a leader, Jack Welch is not that guy.

He's the type of leader who grew the company on a minefield of figurative debt and real hidden costs. Leaving behind something with a solid foundation makes you a good leader. Getting out in time from a Ponzi scheme you built doesn't.

Another trait of a real leader is to be able to grow another leader who can do the same. By his own statements he failed.

And you don’t complain publicly about the people you hired. Especially while loudly proclaiming how good you are at hiring.
The quote does say "according to friends" - so maybe he only complained privately.
It doesn’t really matter. In his book he portrays himself as a great teacher and coach. So not his successor failed but Welch’s mentoring failed. He had all the tools available to bring up a successor but couldn’t do it. Reminds me a little of the US president. Take credit for everything positive that happens and when something goes wrong, point at somebody else and often at somebody he personally selected and hired.
The problem isn't his choice of audience, but his choice of message.
GE crashed nearly a decade after he left. He spent decades building GE into a powerhouse in many industries.

Finding a leader who can replace you is a miniscule piece of being a leader. Also, that's ultimately the Board's responsibility. The CEO reports to them.

Even a weak foundation takes time to crumble. Jack Welch built the foundation for GE's growth on the surface of a bubble that would burst in 2008. Perhaps the real mistake of his successor was not jumping off the pyramid soon enough.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/15/business/ge-jack-welch-im...

> It goes like this: you can do the wrong things but be in a long enough feedback loop that the effects only really start to show themselves some time later. So rather than successfully correlating results to their real causes, what happens instead is:

> a) people fool themselves in the meantime that bad things aren't bad, and

> b) in the aftermath, when the consequences do start to appear, the temporal offset from the real root cause is so large, and they have so many other things to attribute failures to, that they can (and probably will) go the intellectually dishonest route

https://www.colbyrussell.com/2018/10/11/mozilla-and-feedback...

> Finding a leader who can replace you is a miniscule piece of being a leader.

Is this view based on the way Seneca Systems was terminated?

It tells me that he built a house of cards and left before the wind knocked it over