[lern_too_spel]

No. The FBI issues Section 702 data requests for individual users to the companies, whose lawyers manually review the requests and may dispute them before a FISC judge. Only after the company approves the request do they start sending data to the FBI's DITU. PRISM consumes the data from DITU's servers.

The system that sends new communications with the monitored individual to the FBI is definitely automated, but configuring an account to be surveilled is a manual process controlled by the company, not the FBI, and certainly not the NSA. The reason you cannot provide documents that say otherwise is that they don't exist. The reason those documents don't exist is that the program that you've described is a conspiracy theory fiction.

https://www.cnet.com/news/no-evidence-of-nsas-direct-access-...

[monocasa]

Can you give an example of a PRISM request being appealed?

Also, that article is entirely around a quote from Clapper's office that the NSA "does not unilaterally obtain information from the servers of U.S. electronic communication service providers", which we found out literally weeks after that article was openly a lie, at least because of the MUSCULAR program. Like Clapper has openly perjured himself on the specifics of some of these programs.

More recent article about Clapper's perjury on these matters: https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/01/19/james-clap...

[lern_too_spel]

> Also, that article is entirely around a quote from Clapper's office

No, that quote is merely an update to the article. The bulk of the article quotes people who worked on the Secrion 702 data integrations at the tech comanies, quotes from a former government official who made the requests, quotes from a New York Times article that interviewed other people who worked on the system, quotes from the heads of the companies involved, quotes from former lawyers of the companies, and quotes from investigative joirnalists who specialize in national security. It also mentions that multiple government officials, including Senator Wyden who has long been concerned with government surveillance and has been read into all the programs, confirmed phone metadata collection but none confirmed Greenwald's ridiculous misreading of the PRISM slides. It also gives a layman's description of how Section 702 works, which is what enables this collection. Notably, Section 702 does not enable the government to do what you claim PRISM does. Finally, the article also answers your previous question by giving an example of a company fighting one of these requests. Your characterization of the article is mind-bogglingly inaccurate.

MUSCULAR cannot take arbitrary data off the companies' servers. At best, it can intercept their communications off unencrypted international WAN links. According to Snowden's leaks, this was used to collect email metadata for connection chaining (not email contents), a program that Snowden's documents said that Obama shut down.

> More recent article about Clapper's perjury

That's an opinion piece about a single incident. That incident involved a series of questions asking Clapper if the NSA built dossiers on Americans. It doesn't. Eventually, the questions loosened to whether the NSA collects any data on Americans. They do, but by that time, Clapper had been repeatedly saying No for some time and had not realized that any data also includes what he referred to as metadata. Notably, the phone metadata could only be queried in some fixed set of ways according to Snowden's documents, and tying that data to an individual required a separate request, so the phone metadata couldn't be reasonably thought of as constituting dossier information.

But the bigger issue is that you have absolutely no documents saying he lied about PRISM, and you once again exaggerated by saying he perjured on specifics of multiple programs.

[baybal2]

You seem to claim a lot knowledge on the topic, can you tell how you got to know that? What is your occupation?

[lern_too_spel]

I got to know that by (1) reading the documents that Snowden actually leaked instead of just the interpretations of those documents from computer illiterates like Greenwald, (2) knowing people who worked on the major email services at the time, and (3) reading the laws behind these programs.

[baybal2]

> The reason those documents don't exist is that the program that you've described is a conspiracy theory fiction.

PRISM was once told to be a conspiracy theory fiction

[lern_too_spel]

> PRISM was once told to be a conspiracy theory fiction

PRISM as it actually is was never a conspiracy theory. PRISM as Greenwald described it was and remains a conspiracy theory.

[shadowgovt]

Indeed. And there is evidence PRISM is not.

If there's evidence for the other program you're describing, it too can move out of the realm of conspiracy theory fiction. But until there is...