[brutt]

It doesn't looks so. Chinese scientist did research and found that virus was originated outside of Wuhan. It just became wide spread in Wuhan. IMHO, it's from Koltsovo.

[throw0101a]

> It just became wide spread in Wuhan. IMHO, it's from Koltsovo.

What?

The great circle distance between Koltsovo Airport (USSS) and Wuhan Tianhe International Airport (ZHHH) is 5000km:

* http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?&DU=km&P=USSS-ZHHH

And here I thought you were serious... until I looked at a map.

[Hoasi]

> IMHO, it's from Koltsovo

Why do you think it comes from Koltsovo, in Russia?

[simonh]

There was an explosion at a virology lab in Koltsovo in September last year. There were no reported infections as a result and no apparent cases of Coronavirus or anything like it in the area or any established link with Wuhan, but apparently actual evidence isn't required for some people to come to all sorts of conclusions.

[seppin]

> There was an explosion at a virology lab

Why are conspiracy theories so irresistible to so many people?

[simonh]

The idea that we are in possession of special knowledge or rare insights is very compelling. This is especially true if we often find ourselves disbelieved or shown to be wrong on a regular basis, because it creates a justification for being marginalised. Ok those people might be clever, but I know things they don't so I'm still special. As a result people will consciously seek out unlikely connections or speculative ideas and latch on to them to try to get ahead of the pack.

[seppin]

> The idea that we are in possession of special knowledge or rare insights is very compelling.

There's also evidence that people with lower levels of schooling particularly like conspiracy because it allows them to make sense of a chaotic world. Instead of feeling powerless and hopeless, they have a truth not even the smart and powerful have.

It is of course not true, but therein lies the appeal.

[brutt]

This is not a special knowledge. Just Google it: Vector, Koltsevo, 16.09.2019. Moreover, even if outbreak will be traced back to Koltsevo (because it's only one bio-laboratory which had this virus), explosion will be used as excuse.

[seppin]

The news was an explosion, there is no evidence any strain had escaped because of it. That's you filling in details with no proof, ie. conspiracy.

[hempti]

I knew a ex-friend in school a few years back. He has schizophrenia.

He tells you that he knows people in the chines government and other stuff.

You know what the problem here is? You just don't know who is posting.

[brutt]

So, if we will test all workers in Vector, then we will find nobody with antibodies for corona-virus, right?

[brutt]

If explosion can break all windows in the lab, then it can break some vials too.

Koltsevo-Harbin route was used regularly by tourists.

[simonh]

It gets even weaker, Harbin is the opposite end of China from Wuhan and has the second lowest levels of the disease of all the regions in China, beaten only by Tibet. But if it was spread to tourists through the population in Koltsovo, how come there isn't a significant outbreak in Koltsovo? How many Chinese tourists were given the special tour of a blown up virology lab?

[brutt]

I don't know. I need list of passengers from Koltsevo to Wuhan to make conclusion. I cannot get it. IF this is incidental, I will suspect a student with asymptomatic infection.