[el_cujo]

I've always been skeptical of the early-riser v night-owl dichotomy. When I was younger and in highschool, I had to be to school early every day, so I was on the early-riser schedule of sleep at ~10 PM wake at ~6 AM. When I later went to college, I adjusted to a sleep at ~2 AM wake at ~10 AM schedule. Anyone who is on one of these schedules is going to naturally have difficulty if one random day of the week they need to, say, be at work extra early or be out extra late, that's usually where this kind of thing comes up. I feel like this has much more to do with whatever routine you're currently in than it does with any instinctive preference.

[zozbot234]

I think most cases are going to be like that, but people with "advanced" or "delayed" sleep phases are not in the same boat - they will have trouble adapting to any fixed schedule, and no matter what they choose they will feel "jet-lagged" after a while as their "natural" sleep phase goes out of sync with it.

[el_cujo]

Yeah I definitely think there are probably some people like this with messed up cycles that they can't do anything about it. But in general, it does kind of annoy me when people who are late to stuff in the morning blame it on being a nite owl, kind of disposing of any responsibility as if they have a real medical disorder or something when I think for most people it has more to do with enjoying doing stuff late at night or just getting in a habit of staying up late from trying to stretch the day before having to go to work.

[StrangeDoctor]

Your ability to shift between 10pm and 2am is someone else’s 1am to 5am or 6pm to 10pm. Just because you personally had ease falling asleep at these times has no relationship to when other people find it easy to fall asleep. It’s not a binary state night owl or morning bird.