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by nickthemagicman 2307 days ago
Sure you built app on multi 20 core machines with functionality to search hundreds of millions of lines of code almost instantaneously, but are you someone I'd drink a beer with?
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This snide remark dismisses the fact that working on software does mean working with other humans, not just unemotional robots devoid of any kind of irrational ideas. Being able to “drink a beer with” (and reasonably substituting the drinking of beer for just about any other social interaction) is an important part of being able to work with someone. Unless of course you believe an office environment consisting of a tyrannical manager barking orders at worker drones is a healthy relationship.
100%. I don't really care if you're a super genius if you're also a massive dick that everybody hates.
Are you having intimate romantic relationships with all of your co-workers?

If they get me out of work at 4:30 pm and keep the project I'm working on in quality code so I have less fires to deal with, that's good enough for me.

I think when people talk about this, they mean to push back against the fact that people will often to be biased to hire someone they think they could be casual friends with, share interests with, etc.

I like my coworkers and I find them perfectly find to work and make small talk with, but I don't share interests with many of them and wouldn't really care to hang with them outside of work. That shouldn't be a criterion for hiring.

I have found it highly annoying to work in engineering orgs where everyone seems to have the same interests. Everyone talking about Star Wars, Dungeons and Dragons, Lord of the Rings, etc. constantly because it's assumed everyone else around also enjoys that conversation.

It's an ego thing to want to work with someone just like you instead of adapting yourself to others. It's basically bro culture. It's kind of what's wrong with technology culture.

Give me someone who is talented who makes great code so I can be home at 4:30pm and I don't care what their personality is like. Additionally someone who tells me when something is an issue even at my ego's expense is extremely valuable, over back patters and schmoozers who just want to keep everyone happy. That leads to a terrible product. I would not like to see whatever product you're working on is like.

You all should take a long look at yourselves and ask why you have to work with people who are just like you instead of being adaptive to other walks of life, personality, and backgrounds. Try getting out of yourselves for a minute. You might even learn something now outside of your own tiny tiny worlds!

That’s a pretty unfortunate interpretation of my comment, and not entirely logically consistent either.

I mean, if one person who rejects bro culture only wants to collaborate with other people who also reject bro culture, does that mean they are now proponents of bro culture?

I also find it frankly a bit weird for you to make grand sweeping assumptions about who some strangers on an Internet forum choose to associate and collaborate with. How do you know people here don’t work with people from other backgrounds?

I found your interpretation of my original 'snide' comment pretty unfortunate.

And not a single thing you just said makes any logical sense.

I do know I would never want to work on any project that you're in charge of because I guarantee they're nightmare environments.

Best of luck to you nonetheless.

For some of those companies it would be "drink a La Croix with"