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by shadowprofile77
2308 days ago
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Your false equivalence here is absurdly full of shit on both points. The highly decentralized, mostly non-computerized western social shaming that existed for decades for certain social beliefs and practices, which to some extent still exists in certain limited contexts was in no meaningful way comparable to a systematic, almost entirely centralized government-directed formal social credit scoring system that dictates one's "worthiness" and so many aspects of their social life, economic life and literal freedom to move around based on what political opinions they publish, who they're friends with, what things they read, share on social media or even what things they buy. Comparing the two is ridiculous. It's either blatantly blind or you're trolling for some other reason. No western state has anything like this. No notable number of people in the west are literally ruined economically or banned from travel, or the victims of their friends being nudged by the government into abandoning them because they posted something against Trump, or against Obama or in any other context. Very public, very open debate and protest against numerous government policies is still very much alive and well in the west. In China this is blatantly not the case. |
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Ah "false equivalence". It gets me every time because at this point it's so obvious. A talking point by people who don't know what it means.
> The highly decentralized, mostly non-computerized western social shaming that existed for decades for certain social beliefs and practices
Highly decentralized? FBI background checks are decentralized? Credit checks are highly decentralized? If you think "the west" is decentralized, you really have bought into the propaganda hard. Let me guess you think "the west" is individualistic while the east is "collectivist".
> No notable number of people in the west are literally ruined economically or banned from travel, or the victims of their friends being nudged by the government into abandoning them because they posted something against Trump, or against Obama or in any other context.
And notable number of people in china have been? Or is it just parroting propaganda you just choose to believe in.
> Comparing the two is ridiculous.
Only to people with an agenda.
> It's either blatantly blind or you're trolling for some other reason.
This is called a false dichotomy with a dash of ad hominem.
> In China this is blatantly not the case.
The hong kong protests don't happen? How come there are so many protests in china?
https://www.economist.com/china/2018/10/04/why-protests-are-...
Just because they aren't identical doesn't mean they aren't comparable. Just because one is bad doesn't mean the other is good. You can cherrypick nonsense to fit an agenda or just look at the obvious objectively.