[RaleyField]

That's what you can do, sometimes. Step around dozens of dark patterns. It's not what your less tech-savvy relatives can realistically do.

[enitihas]

So with windows they are even more screwed, as they will have to pay for it, and then see ads. Worse that Android for sure.

[pjmlp]

With Android you don't get to uninstall factory packaged apps.

[enitihas]

You do, you can literally disable gmail from app info. I just tried this on my moto one power and it is totally possible.

[milankragujevic]

On cheaper Android devices that are sold at-cost or below cost, you usually can't. They need to make money on your data with those "value-add" apps, to remain profitable, so they mark ALL apps as "system required", to prevent disabling (i.e. try disabling SystemUI through the UI, it won't let you, the button will be greyed out).