[grecy]

It depends entirely on where you live. Out West there is no waiting and I've never experienced any of what you're talking about.

I've only heard stories about how it is in the East, I've never met anyone first hand that has experienced it, or really hates it.

[bureaucrat]

Because you haven't experienced a problem in your body that is rotten deep inside but shows little to no symptoms. My friend died in Alberta. It took two weeks to even see a doctor and more to wait for antibiotic shots.

Doctors try hard to not make problem a problem because the system is fucked in a way that doctors benefit from less patients. They don't try to cure. They wrap up the symptom and makes patients think it's a small problem.

Oh yeah, there is a way to be cured without waiting in Canada. When you're on the verge of death.

I despise hypocrites praising health-not-care in Canada. It just makes me sick.

[grecy]

I lived in Alberta for 2 years, I've got many friends living there still. I have never heard of what you're talking about, and certainly never experienced it.

I can't help thinking you over exaggerating the issue to avoid single-payer heathcare in the US at all costs.

Also, I lived in Australia for 23 years. It works great there.

[GFischer]

I live in Uruguay, and my mother in Canada.

I agree that for those fringe cases, healthcare in the U.S. might be better (Uruguay is also bad with tough to diagnose diseases).

But for 99.99% of the remaining cases, Canadian or Uruguayan health system is way better.

And I think there has to be a way to reconciliate the very good U.S. top of the line healthcare with the way better general healthcare most of the rest of the world has.

My sister lives in San Francisco and there are several benefits I regularly use which you basically can't access in the U.S. except if you're a millionaire - like doctor visiting your house when you're sick, and I mean things like a fever or a flu, and ambulance coverage included in basic healthcare.