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by nickjj 2314 days ago
Udemy is one of the most corrupt / worst marketplaces I've ever encountered in the world -- for the folks who make courses at least.

For reference I've had some of my courses on their platform for years and it's not like I'm bitter because no one bought my courses. I've made a solid amount of money there over the years (6 figures).

The problem is they constantly sell your course for $10 and then take 50%+. Any traffic coming from Google results in them taking 50%+ too. If you opt out of their controlled pricing then your course will be hidden from all search results, in which case you'll make nothing because no one will be able to find you and that defeats the entire purpose of using a marketplace.

But that's only the tip of the iceberg. Udemy heavily hand tunes search results and cuts behind the scenes deals with instructors in certain niches, and when those deals happen, other people in the same niche get completely fucked over night.

For example, I was selling close to 50+ courses a day, then Udemy signed a contract with another person in the same niche (they told me directly). A few days after their course went live, the traffic to my course dropped by over an order of magnitude and my sales dropped by 20x. My graphs literally looks like a nose dive and I went from being able to sustain myself to having to stop creating courses.

The hilarious thing is my course is even higher rated than theirs and I've had people message me privately saying they took both courses and much preferred mine, yet it sits barely on the first page with a 4.7 average rating and like 1 sale a day with little to no traffic.

Every time I email Udemy asking about this they say they don't modify search results, but then every time I show them screenshots of very strange ranking behavior they change what they say and usually I get in a bump in sales for a day and then it drops off.

For the last few years I've spent a lot of time (and a lot of hard work) attempting to build my own audience instead of making new courses so I can drop Udemy all together. I'm not there yet, but one day I hope I'll never have to deal with that platform again and I wouldn't recommend using Udemy for both buying or selling courses to my worst enemy.

Oh, and one fun thing about being on Udemy too is, you can expect people to black mail you for unreasonable things. I've had more than 1 person on the platform email me saying things like I "MUST" help them with their custom project for free and if I don't then they they are going to give my course a 1 star review. I think due to Udemy's low prices, it attracts a certain type of person.

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You should totally branch out on your own. Maybe put some "teaser" courses on Udemy with good content, but not premium, and do premium on your own. I want to take your letsencrypt course but would rather pay you directly. So as an example of my suggestion in this case, your Udemy course would maybe explain SSL, explain LetsEncrypt, and show how to get around, but the best, most usable scripts and info would only be available in your course.

It's like all the other platform stuff: You're basically a contractor for Udemy. Their rules, their terms, and you're ditched when somebody makes them a "better" deal.

I tried many different strategies over the years. The only real move is to never use Udemy for anything.

If you put a watered down version of a course on Udemy and then try to sell your premium course at the end, then a ton of people who go through the course will just slam you with 1 star reviews saying things like "this idiot gave us a 5 hour course where I learned a lot but now he wants us to buy the premium course on his own platform".

If you put a free course on Udemy, with intent to move people to your platform by gently mentioning a premium version of the course, you'll get the same type of negative reviews no matter how good the course is.

This is especially bad too because Udemy students are trained by the platform to only ever pay $10-15 for a course, even if it has 20+ hours of content, full time support and life time free updates. Suggesting a price that isn't $10 results in hostility and practically 0% conversions.

If you go the other route and create some type Udemy-specific mini course where you don't even talk about the "better" version of the course, and you really make it the best it can be then you end up hurting yourself because Google is going to rank the Udemy version higher than your own version, so organic traffic will be driven to the Udemy version.

You're waaaaay better off never to even step foot on Udemy's platform and just build your own audience with your own platform. Most successful courses are successful due to word of mouth, not the marketplace. That's the whole idea behind the "1,000 true fans" concept.

Well your $59 flask course looks awesome, you’re definitely on the right track and I see the value over having a direct connection to the creator rather than through Udemy.
Udemy is in business to make money. Be it the 50% or tweaking SERPs, why shouldn't they do that?
Udemy is ostensibly in business to help people learn something.