[riedel]

Exactly this is the key point. This why email is still so important because it doesn't lock you into ecosystems. It comes from a time when decentralization was still valued in the internet.

I think only regulatory action could be a way out of the messenger mess (which potentially leak even more metadata). I don't want to be forced into closed telecom ecosystems by my (real life) social network. The problem with potential message routing regulation will be that governments mandate weak crypto for law enforcement.

So I guess email is a dinosaur worth preserving. Even with security after design. delta.chat comes close to an deal world IMHO if you ignore the problem with metadata. Maybe it could integrate sth like mixes to make email a bit harder to monitor.