[workaccountone]

Is there any evidence suggesting this Seth Rich story is believable? There's certainly ample evidence suggesting it is not. The (FOX) article that peddled this story has been retracted and Seth Rich's family is suing the network over it.

[derision]

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/07/24/intel-vets-challenge-r...

[three_seagrass]

This conspiracy has been debunked. The VIPS statement you linked to doesn't name their "independent cybersecurity" source, which was later proven to be the work of UK trolls:

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180802/07182740351/as-dn...

[castlecrasher2]

How is that a debunking? Sure, it points out an asinine argument but it's certainly not disproving anything.

[three_seagrass]

It's proving their source was false, which was the premise of their entire argument, effectively debunking it.

[derision]

Here's more information in another comment in this thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22369830

[ccaleb]

I don't mean to be condescending but perhaps you should continue your research. All of the stuff you're posting has been widely and thoroughly debunked. Additionally, you should think about which sources pushed this debunked information upon you. Are those trustworthy news sources?

[netsharc]

I thought Hacker News had higher quality commenters than reddit, but lately I've been getting more and more disappointed.

(Not with you but with the likes of Seth Rich-conspiracy-theory spreading idiots).

[derision]

I keep seeing people say it's debunked but their source for that is a news article that looks no different than my sources that doesn't provide convincing evidence in my opinion. Maybe you should continue your research on your debunking sources and think who pushed that theory onto you

[three_seagrass]

That HN comment was debunked as well. See the response in the thread.

[ccaleb]

Again, this has been debunked, multiple times. https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170814/11490537992/stori...

[akvadrako]

There is evidence from the leaks it was an inside job - basically the time stamps indicate the files were copied at USB2 speeds.

[orf]

Imagine the lack of thought that goes into saying something like that. Not just saying it but also believing it.

You’re getting this data from a third party. One that may well have used a USB stick to copy the data AFTER exfiltrating it using some other method, but BEFORE handing it to wiki leaks.

Some shoddy timestamp correlations don’t mean that the data was stolen via USB in any way. They are inherently mutable and could well have been modified by an adversary to spread FUD.

[akvadrako]

Everything in the leak could be faked and nothing about it makes it definitionally due to a Russian hack either.

But the evidence certainly seems to indicate a local copy done by somebody who wasn't trying to cover their tracks:

https://theforensicator.wordpress.com/guccifer-2-ngp-van-met...

The only evidence pointing to Russians is the CIA says so. The NSA gave it about a 50% chance before joining the other agencies to parrot what the CIA said.

[orf]

Yeah a guy working for an organization who would outright murder you for leaking sensitive information sure wouldn’t bother covering his tracks while leaking sensitive information.

Or, you know, this data was copied to a USB by Wikileaks at some point before publishing.

[akvadrako]

That doesn't make any sense. The source of the archive isn't wikileaks and the timestamps originate a couple months before publishing in the EDT timezone, before being organized and packaged for release.

[orf]

Wikileaks source giving it to them via USB makes a lot of sense, then the timestamps where altered after delivery if they were not placed there as a red herring

What does it make sense is the evil DNC murdering one of their own employees on US soil after a very public data breach.

If only we could think of a country that would profit from promoting this conspiracy theory! Then we might get closer to the truth.

[tropo]

Fox didn't create the highly suspicious facts. What Fox does or doesn't report is not relevant. Also, anybody can sue anybody for anything, so that means nothing either.

Here we have an email recently obtained via FOIA, from Peter Strzok, showing he "squashed" the investigation:

https://imgur.com/a/9r44Qf4

That adds to the pile of suspicion. Seth had the means and the motive. Random killings are not so likely, even in DC. The attacker didn't take anything of value.

Podesta's emails also have very chilling comments about dealing with leakers.