[ghostbrainalpha]

>At best it says they had customers that broke the law.

Did you see the part at the top where the CEO admitted to being all of those "customers"? They were playing a shell game, and while this guy didn't do the criminal activities he definitely was working for the "legitimate front end" of a larger criminal organization.

[busterarm]

Even if you take the OP at face value, they're an unreliable narrator at best.

They have questionable character and moral standards by their own admission. That's before even considering the effects of their mental illness.

I would never hire this "perpetually unemployed" person. Everything they say points to something being off.

[saber6]

Flipside: This criminal enterprise spotted those same exact attributes, but the mitigating factor was technical competence and submissiveness. And if it came to be where they thought it would never end up (the situation today), someone would discredit them as crazy, given their background.

[busterarm]

Absolutely they did. I'm not discounting OP's story, I'm basically suggesting exactly what you're saying.

I've seen a similar scenario play out before with another spammer and the kind of people he hired.

[saber6]

Gotcha. I misunderstood - I thought you were saying they were crazy and not to believe them etc.

[ikeboy]

I read the entire post. Can you please quote the part you're referring to?

[ghostbrainalpha]

"Within a week I was convinced Micfo encompassed more than just Micfo, but a handful of shell companies:

This was later proved to be true when the CEO(Amir), admitted in the ARIN(American Registry for Internet Numbers) trial, he was really behind these entities."

[ikeboy]

As far as I can tell, those shell companies were to get additional IP addresses out of ARIN. It's not been alleged that they were customers of Micfo running spamming etc services, by anyone except you.

[ajross]

And the author.

But your claim was that this was unrelated to the trial. The response was that, no, it actually corroborated the core allegation in the Micfo case.

It's true that it alleges other stuff. That doesn't make the IP fraud point somehow not corroboration.

[ikeboy]

The author does not allege that.

>But your claim was that this was unrelated to the trial. The response was that, no, it actually corroborated the core allegation in the Micfo case.

Now you're misreading both OP and the response to my comment. ghostbrainalpha claimed that the OP says the CEO was the same as the customers that were allegedly committing crimes like spamming. The OP does not say this.

>That doesn't make the IP fraud point somehow not corroboration.

OP never mentions this as one of the crimes he's listing. He lists:

1. Mishandling of warrants

2. Child endangerment

3. Enabling spamming

4. Enabling ToS violations

None of the things OP says are crimes are actually illegal, and none of them were at issue during the trial. That's what I pointed out.

[ajross]

I'm sorry, you've completely lost me. The core allegation in the Micfo case is that the company fraudulently obtained 800k IP addresses from ARIN using fake companies. The author of this post corroborates handling large quantities of the the PTR record changes for these companies in exactly the manner described at trial. I mean, this is quite clearly related behavior.

And yet you're all like "I can't believe anyone thinks this is related!" based on the fact that some other stuff alleged (which seems reasonably credible to me, and also plausibly illegal if you infer some context) wasn't part of the trial. But... so what?

(Also: I don't understand why you're saying Child Endangerment isn't "actually illegal", it's literally a term of art in the field used in statutes all across the US! Obviously that's not proof of a crime here, but... no, you're wrong, "child endangerment" is an actual crime.)

[kevin_thibedeau]

So 1%'ers can use shell companies to get what they want, but ordinary corporations can't use their free speech rights to spend money for the same?