| First off: I don't think current cars are good enough, and I didn't say they were. > If you're in traffic and the car isn't moving it's idling. Let me rephrase. A car does not idle continuously while being useful, it only idles for a minute or two at a time. A computer running at "idle power levels" is more like a self-driving car that only goes up to 15mph. Which would actually be very useful if you're in stop-and-go traffic. > If a system left to its own devices turns a degraded lane marker into a major life threatening challenge then it just makes my point that you're the driver and it can only assist. Depends on what you mean by "left to its own devices". If you mean that I'm zoned out watching a movie, and the car crashes all by itself, then that car doesn't meet the standard I laid out. If the car beeps at me, and I have to intentionally choose to ignore it to get into a crash, that's acceptable. Because I won't ignore it, and won't crash, even though the car can take over for hour(s) at a time. Go ahead and call it "driver assist" if you want. > Self driving cars today Are level 2, and I want a level 3 or 4. Level 3 is the minimum I described, and I don't care if we call it "self driving" or "driver assist", it's useful. Level 4 is just level 3 plus the ability to pull over when confused, but I would say it's unambiguously "self-driving" at that point. |