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by captain_qwark 2318 days ago
Explain to me how waiting 20 minutes after punching out is a dystopia.
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Explain to me how paying an extra 20 minutes wage per employee having to wait, or doing the search on the clock is such a dystopia.

The employee isn't making the business do something exploitative after all. They punched out, you're on their time clock now. Frankly, you'd be lucky to not have people start organizing, raising awareness and amending their employment contract to incur a penalty charge for the company receiving the luxury of having an employee stand around until your "inventory assurance" associate can do their thing. timex4 sounds good given the opportunity cost, unsociable behavior, and overall unpleasantness demonstrated by actually pushings this far.

It's amazing the things people can be convinced when you demonstrate that they are being taken for a ride.

You could use the same rhetorical tactic in reverse e.g. "explain how paying employees for an additional 20 minutes of their time justifies outsourcing their jobs". You'd respond "well that's only one example..."
You're not making any sense dude. My reply points out that it's ridiculous to imply that waiting unpaid for your employer to search you before leaving is anything near a dystopia.
Nobody implied that "waiting to get searched == dystopia". That's a straw man you constructed to argue with.

My point is about the overall attitude you expressed which is that it's somehow the workers' fault that their jobs are being outsourced to poor countries because they were so silly as to demand rights and compensation for time that they are forced to be at work.

Please come over to my house and cook me dinner. It will take only 20 minutes!

I won't pay you.

Clearly the parent is not saying Apple’s situation is a dystopia, but is saying that the underlying logic, that workers demanding anything their employers don’t want to do will lead to loss of jobs and therefore is not a good thing.

The logic the GP used implies that as long as US employees are paid more than the least paid employee in the world (which would probably be 0 considering the current existing situations of slavery in the world) they shouldn’t resist and should just accept what they are getting.