[dsl]

> The CIA is a disaster that needs to be dismantled.

Working for the CIA is like being a sysadmin. The world only knows you exist when you fuck up.

There was a great CCC talk recently that showed how one of the Vault 7 tools wasn't a remote assassination boogieman drone tool like Wikileaks framed it, but actually a control the CIA developed that allowed them to give anti-air weapons to friendlies in Syria and Ukraine with positive access control and strong time/geo scoping to prevent them from being used nefariously.

[Shacklz]

> Working for the CIA is like being a sysadmin. The world only knows you exist when you fuck up.

While there's some truth to that, this way of thinking entirely ignores the opportunity cost that all those agencies have. With those insane budgets, you could do so much good in the world that one wouldn't have to fear the problems those agencies try to solve, because a lot of them wouldn't exist in the first place.

[JoeSmithson]

The budget of intelligence agencies is not anywhere near that big.

[einpoklum]

CCC... Communist Congress of China? Christian Columnist Caucus? Conference on Computational Complexity?

[niklasd]

Probably Chaos Computer Club, a German association of hackers. At least in Europe quite well known. They do a lot of cool stuff, like looking for security flaws in voting machines and such stuff.