[BoiledCabbage]

> In the optimistic scenario, a month from now we can calculate, from data outside mainland china, that the CFR is perhaps .3% or below

What so absurd is it will take the world a month to know how serious this virus is. By that point it's likely too late to do anything to stop it.

It's beyond disgusting that China is putting the entire world's population at risk due to pride and ego.

Essentially "we'd rather screw over potentially millions of lives everywhere rather than admit how poorly we handled this".

...and they just keep digging.

[watertom]

This is a country the forced doctors at gun point to perform live delivery abortions in order to enforce the one child rule.

A good friend's sister was a Obgyn in China, and when women were discovered with their second pregnancy they would be brought in for abortions even if the baby was full term.

Doctors would either comply or have guns drawn and be threatened, doctors who failed to comply would be taken away, never to be seen again. At one point my friend's sister was performing twice as many abortions than she was delivering babies, and all of the abortions the mothers were being forced. Screaming, yelling, begging, pleading and crying hysterically.

As my friend would say, "My country doesn't value human life in any way, people are just numbers, all people are just numbers."

[hongloumeng]

This account seems exaggerated. Forced late-term abortions in China were certainly a real thing, and the value of the life of a stranger is on par with that of livestock. However, guns are rarely seen in everyday life in China. This is especially the case with policemen and low-level enforcers. The exception are soldiers on duty, and security for transporting currency. Guns are kept in armories, brought out by specially trained "armed police".

[Accujack]

Hint: If it's going to become a pandemic, then it's probably already too late to contain it.