[ohleg]

One factor that wasn't mentioned here (probably because people don't really mention it publicly) that I've anecdotally heard of from a number of people in tech who've made the SF->NYC move is the better gender and career diversity there. For men this can equate to a better dating lifestyle, and just in general some want to be surrounded by people besides tech bros.

Regarding politics, I wonder if another way to interpret this is people who find San Francisco too liberal (or unsupportive of Trump) and want to move somewhere more representative of how a majority of the country (however you define that) thinks.

[Redoubts]

> I've anecdotally heard of from a number of people in tech who've made the SF->NYC move is the better gender and career diversity there. For men this can equate to a better dating lifestyle, and just in general some want to be surrounded by people besides tech bros.

This is absolutely valid and it's sad to see this greyed out. SF dating is a shitshow from many perspectives.

[inferiorhuman]

SF dating is a shitshow from many perspectives.

Dating in SF is… interesting, especially if you're trying to do so within the confines of the tech community. Take a look at r/SFr4r (yikes). The tech community out here is also pretty damn small. Looking on HN, facebook, or reddit I'll still run into posts from folks I've gone out with or know professionally.

From attending devops days in Manhattan a couple years ago I'd say that the NYC tech community certainly seems more diverse than what I'm used to out here.

[hellisothers]

I left Mountain View (for Oakland) for similar reasons, so many people in tech. Even though I’m in tech I don’t want to be smothered in it, I hear NYC has a similar issue with finance.

[celdon25]

> Regarding politics, I wonder if another way to interpret this is people who find San Francisco too liberal (or unsupportive of Trump) and want to move somewhere more representative of how a majority of the country (however you define that) thinks.

I'll provide a personal anecdote...

I lean on the conservative side, and lived in San Francisco for a few years. I never had any particular desire to live somewhere else just to be around others who believe that the nation can be more effectively governed with lower taxes and a leaner bureaucracy; or those who believe that abortion is murder. However, in the last five years, there's been a large uptick in representation of a very opinionated, very loud, and increasingly violent minority of those associated with the left. The kind of people who will call you a Nazi for not agreeing with them, or for suggesting in any context that a person ought to be responsible for their own well-being.

I think I'm not alone in stating that was a factor in my moving away from the area. I did not even vote for Trump in 2016 by the way, and I left in 2017.

[ryanckulp]

bingo. wrote about this too, last week: https://www.ryanckulp.com/politicization-of-everything/

[ryanckulp]

ahh the plot thickens. maybe a lot of people leave SF because they support Trump and want more of that. (doesn't exactly explain high NYC frequency, which is also liberal), but i like it