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by AmericanChopper
2318 days ago
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> to show that, no, I do have a factual basis. 30 years ago is pretty much the lowest point on that graph. Real wage growth shrank between the 70s and 90s, but it has most certainly been climbing for the last 30 years. I really don’t know how charitable you’re expecting me to be with interpreting what you’re saying. When you say something that’s simply outright wrong, am I supposed to just guess that you meant to say something else that could kinda almost be seen as only a little bit wrong? > This is such an obvious troll and a clear demonstration of your misunderstanding It’s really not at all. How about you show some of that charity you’ve been talking about? Your problem stems from wages being determined by supply and demand. Well, there’s countries in the world today that have implemented the economic systems you’re advocating for. If you can’t think of a single one you’d even consider living in (aside from as say, an upper class foreigner), then what does that tell you about your ideas? I’m calling this out as an opportunity for you to put some more thought into your ideas, instead of jumping to the conclusion that people who challenge them are personally attacking you. |
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You're right, 50 years is what I meant. We are back to the 70's. Thanks for correcting me on this.
> Well, there’s countries in the world today that have implemented the economic systems you’re advocating for.
What economic system do you think I am advocating for?
I'm pretty sure whatever response you have in your head, is wrong. I opened this thread simply "pay employees better" and have since shown how I am a free-market person, yet you've gone Chávez on me.
But! I will still humor your questions.
> If you can’t think of a single one you’d even consider living in (aside from as say, an upper class foreigner), then what does that tell you about your ideas?
I actually did this where the cost of living was higher (thus moving down in class). I moved from low-cost USA to high-cost Switzerland. And yet it's a form of capitalism that is socially responsible and gives everyday society a pretty damn good quality of life in comparison.
> I’m calling this out as an opportunity for you to put some more thought into your ideas, instead of jumping to the conclusion that people who challenge them are personally attacking you.
This is rich. I'm asking you to consider that people that disagree with you aren't idiots and are putting in that thought into their ideas (making your whole demand of yours, a reflection of your lack of charity!), such as uprooting their whole damn life to move to another country, instead of creating a caricature of that person and then making a bunch of dismissive uncharitable opening comments to a very simple "pay employees better".
The fact that I have to say "I assure you I did put serious thought into this" should be a red flag to how you engage in "thoughtful" internet debate. It reeks of Reddit's awful culture, where people think "I can make logical arguments from facts. I have facts. This means my argument must be correct and others that disagree must be wrong."
The world is a lot greyer than that.