[jordanbeiber]

Yeah, so at places in Sweden we have the most stupid buss stops.

You have main road, then a curb followed by a bicycle lane followed by a buss stop with a pedestrian sidewalk behind it.

If you want to get to the buss you need to cross the cycle-lane.

If the cyclist is careless and speeding, and you maybe are not paying enough attention, bad stuff can and do happen.

[dvfjsdhgfv]

But this makes no sense. Whenever I see such bus stops I wonder who designed them in this way. It makes pedestrians and cyclist compete for the same area without any obvious sign. Pedestrians need to act quickly, otherwise they will miss the bus. Cyclists don't see any red light or other signal to stop from afar, and when they got closer and realize people start pouring from the bus stop to the road, they need to breake in the last moment. Sometimes you don't even realize what's going on as the bus is hidden from your view by trucks.

[jordanbeiber]

This is why a call them “stupid”. They are obviously dangerous, still I have one just like it around the corner from my home.

Just the other week a guy got hit in the arm by a slow riding bike while waiting, which made him so pissed he grabbed the bike rider by the arm and kind of threw him to the ground.

People had to separate them from fist fighting.

[pastage]

It's actually lots of regulation that states what is important in city planning, bicyclepaths are at the bottom of those list.

[Joe-Z]

I've seen these kind of stops in the Netherlands and can totally understand your point. I am all for separate bike lanes but why you would do it in a way to have this separate "bus island" I couldn't see.