[elipsey]

How about we start with _any_? I won't believe an inflammatory claim based on heresay alone.

The claim in discussion was HiSilicon is "Huawei-owned", not "HiSilicon is Chineese." If the claimant meant something by "owned" other than it's dictionary denotation, he didn't say that. If the meaning of corporate ownership is undefined in China, the claim is not true because it is also undefined.

Edit: Ok, look. I think heinously insecure imported IoT stuff, which could possibly be meddled with by a foreign state is a very serious concern. If that's what you're driving at, I agree with you. But if we want people to take us seriously we need to be careful not to say stuff that isn't true, or go around accusing people of things if we can't back it up with evidence. This would undermine our goals.

[yorwba]

On page 124 of their 2018 annual report (page 126 of the PDF) Huawei lists their ownership of HiSilicon as 100%: https://www-file.huawei.com/-/media/corporate/pdf/annual-rep...

I don't understand though why you think that's such an inflammatory claim.

[elipsey]

I don't think it is inflammatory in isolation. I just wanted a citation for it. My objection had to do with the entire title, but that has now been changed to the actual article title. This conversation is confusing because it's happening between so many people, and the title changed.

With respect to the ownership of HiSilicon, I was looking for a citation. I accept that Huawei owns HiSilicon. Thank you.