[nickik]

> It's a triangle

That is wrong. In fact we have a much larger population, in many ways human life is more sustainable then it ever was and its easily more prosperous then in the past.

Just like in the 60s the people over-hyping population growth are just as fundamentally wrong as the people who wanted to force cut of trade and foreign aid to India to force them to adopt population control matters.

These same terrible dangerous and fundamentally wrong ideas pop up over and over again.

In fact, with a growing population humans have been using less of earths space. More people live in much denser areas. And even with billions more people we are far below the peak amount of agro culture land. In fact all over the western world wood and wild lands are growing.

With Nuclear, Solar, Wind, Water energy the environmental impact will be far less then what we currently have (and countries with nuclear had for a long time). We could double and triple world population again and there would be no energy issue other then a temporary scale issue.

[mytailorisrich]

We have continuously expanded our use of land and resources.

That fact that forests are expanding in e.g. Europe, a continent that has already been completely devoid of wilderness should not mask what is happening in continents that are 'behind' like Africa, South America, and Asia.

This is the key issue at hand and is driven by population growth coupled with less poverty, and what is causing current climate and environmental issues.

Ignoring this is what is fundamentally dangerous and we can see the effects on the planet right now.