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Still waiting on a sub 30k electric sedan that doesn't look like a turd

[MisterTea]

... and isn't full of tablet computers with half finished software that needs constant updating, miles of wire, self driving snake oil, and other electronic wizz bang nonsense. I just want a car. Not an IT experiment.

[tfandango]

One which can be repaired without expensive trips to the dealership to use proprietary tools.

[adolph]

Do you have a better suggestion for passing air easily? It’s foundational to car movement now a days.