[abraxas]

I am a middle aged Varsovian. I know exactly how they used to function and how they function today. It's a mixed bag. The transit vehicles are more comfortable but less frequent on many routes and often get bogged down in car traffic which used to never happen in the eighties.

[bbv-if]

... because most people could not afford cars back then, could they?

[asjw]

And you think it's bad I guess...

But people don't need cars, they mostly need a way to commute, possibly for cheap

Would you say that the policies that San Francisco is implementing now, banning cars from the city centre, are a consequence of the city being dirty poor?