[Nasrudith]

Anyway it is a pet peeve of mine about talking about economic growth and ending. Growth isn't just more stuff but also better stuff and how it is used.

If there is no growth even in such hypothetical extremes as a fixed population sustainable everything model then society is fundamentally doing things very wrong. Because you have global workforces working at things and nobody is learning to do anything better. A newbie having the exact same productivity as a veteran. In every field. That is deeply contrary to the state of being of everything and implies truly epic levels of mismanagement.