[mapcars]

>Sometimes depression is the correct response to what is happening in the world. Just because you are conscious of what is transpiring within really isn't going to stop true depression.

The response is what you choose. If you choose depression - ok, that's your choice. But don't call it correct and don't force other people to feel bad when they choose another response.

>What do you say to someone who recently lost a loved one in a brutal senseless manner?

If it was very recent I would say some supportive things. But otherwise, I would show them that life still goes on, because the only way to end suffering is to accept the reality whichever way it is.

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> But don't call it correct and don't force other people to feel bad when they choose another response.

Why not? Why is depression not a correct response? I don't think you know much about depression or psychology

[mapcars]

>Why not? Why is depression not a correct response?

Because there is no correct response or every response is correct. All your responses are trained by society where you grew up, it is clearly visible if you visit other cultures where people don't create much drama about death and accept it as a natural process, even celebrate.

>I don't think you know much about depression or psychology

You may think anything you want, that's not a problem.

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That's nonsensical. Every response is not correct. When there is a tragedy if you go around with a big grin on your face and laugh about it, people will instantly view you as a maniac, as they should.

Of course perspective and personal choice plays into your reactions, but for a tragic event depression is the normal and correct response. To say otherwise is just ill-informed and foolish. You can look at this as existential or stoically as you want, it doesn't change the facts of human psychology.

And death is just one example of something that COULD be tragic. If some culture celebrates death that's fine, maybe it's the rain they view as tragic, and in that case they would be depressed when it rains, and that would be the normal response to their "tragedy". People don't celebrate things that depress them by definition, although what that thing is may be different events across cultures. Death is a good example because almost all cultures do not celebrate it, they are saddened and mourn. How about when that tribe that celebrates death is attacked by their neighbours, do they still celebrate the death of their loved ones in the same way? I doubt it, because that's a tragic event not just a natural part of life. Which was my original example. before you twisted it into something very different. I said a loved one brutally and tragically killed. There's no culture that would celebrate that, and to be saddened and depressed is absolutely the correct response. Can people really choose to not be affected by something like that? It sounds patronizing to think that is something you can just will away and also unhealthy. Grieving, depression, sadness can all be healthy and normal. Sometimes it is the correct response to what is happening in the world, which is what I said in my first post.

[mapcars]

>I doubt it, because that's a tragic event not just a natural part of life

How do you really know what is natural and what is unnatural part of life? In nature creatures also die in quite tragic ways, even from their own loved ones. Is that not natural?

Tragedy can only be when you see a limited picture. In a limitless landscape of existence everything goes perfectly, ultimately there are no mistakes. Things lead to other things which we are not aware, that's all. Maybe somebody's "tragic death" saved hundreds of lives? How could you possibly know?

Again, it does not mean there is no such thing as grief or sadness and it's perfectly fine to experience it. But it's important to be able to see beyond it too.

I see your confusion, maybe it's not a great idea to go into such things over the internet.

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You are a fragile fucking snowflake, and after losing an argument you make a desparate assertion that I'm confused. You're not making coherent arguments get real, you're going on about "nature" for god knows what reason, I'm exhausted just thinking about how disconnected your thoughts are and to actually try and respond would be silly. You sound like you live in a bubble and don't know how to have an adult conversation. And your "ideas" on the subject were just shown to be hollow and wrong, so you have impolitely recused yourself from the conversation. What a child.