[davidw]

> public care (which kind of sucks and has insane waiting times, which means you most often do)

You should see what it's like in the US.

Italy's certainly not perfect, but faults and all, I'd happily go back to that system from the one we have here in the US.

It does make a difference where you are in both countries, though; in Italy I lived in Padova, where things mostly work pretty well.