[fsloth]

It sounds your argument is based on claims of hypothetical second order systems effects. I think that systems thinking is important - but makes it very hard to discuss further if the other party (me) is not deeply familiar with the domain (german economic life and people) which I'm not.

I.e. 'actively harmfull' -> but just dropping state investment won't magically teach peoples how to do business in a customer oriented way. So you need some second order effects to kick in (i.e. people would then focus on market needs more etc).

I can't really comment on that. I don't know the german psyche enough to postulate on the second order effects.

Most of german industry has been grown historically in a corporative manner, so I'm a bit skeptical you could drive US style individual entrepreunship in just by dropping this or that government program.