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by pastor_elm 2337 days ago
16" pros are not popular. Nobody wants to lug that thing around. The Mac Pro is just too expensive. I know people who used to buy Mac Pros and were forced to get iMacs.
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As someone who has been wanting to buy a MBP for several years, the 16" MBP is the best laptop they've made since the 2015 MBP.

That being said, I agree with you. It's too large.

There's also still a lot of stuff I don't care for (bezel size, massive trackpad, still has an underwhelming keyboard, lack of port diversity, touchbar), but it's decent enough for me to pull the trigger if it were in a smaller package.

They gave us the esc key back, and moved away from the butterfly mechanism, etc. If it was just in a form factor similar to that of comparable dell/lenovos (<= 14"), I'd buy one and I feel like I'm not the only one.

That being said, I also echo the price concerns. You can easily spec out a 16" to over $3k - that's a lot for a laptop.

> It's too large.

For what it's worth, it's actually slightly smaller on every dimension than the 15" 2015 MBP, even with the extra diagonal-inch of screen space:

  358.9 mm × 247.1 mm × 18.0 mm
vs

  357.9 mm x 245.9 mm x 16.2 mm
Anyway, I'm sure the keyboard updates will make it to the 13" soon.
> 16" pros are not popular

Clearly you've been living under a rock. I see 15"/16" all over the place.

> The Mac Pro is just too expensive

For hobbyists. Not for its target market.

> For hobbyists. Not for its target market.

The mac pro is somewhere between "too expensive" and "too little, too late".

The standard line is that if you make $$$ using the Mac Pro - e.g. production companies - the cost is peanuts. However, they took so long to upgrade the Pro lineup that some of those would-be-buyers have already moved on to non-Apple products because working on old hardware for so long was more expensive than jumping off Apple's ship.

Certainly many stayed. But I have several friends that work in production in LA and more than one of them left Apple's ecosystem during that dry spell. They aren't coming back for an overpriced machine.

From what I've heard it's not really overpriced at that scale, but yeah, I'm sure there are some that switched for whom the cost of switching back just wouldn't be worth it
Not at my company. We're lining up to upgrade to the 16".