[derp_dee_derp]

very clever propaganda indeed.

our politicians do the same thing.

Madam Secretary [0] was propaganda for Hillary Clinton

Diary of a Future President [1] is propaganda for Michelle Obama

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madam_Secretary_(TV_series) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diary_of_a_Future_President

[knodi123]

Wow. Without some additional arguments backing that up, this looks really disgusting and misogynistic.

I look forward to seeing some evidence that Diary of a Future President is a cynical piece of propaganda designed to aid the fortunes of Michelle Obama, in order to restore a bit of my faith in humanity.

[Mirioron]

How is calling that propaganda misogynistic? Not everything that's against a woman is misogyny.

[knodi123]

No, but saying "Diary of a Future President" must be propaganda for Michelle Obama does indeed smack of woman-phobia. "yikes, someone's giving girls the idea that they could be politically powerful. it's probably a secretive social manipulation cynically run by the most powerful woman I can think of off the top of my head."

Also, the only two people listed were Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton? All the powerful people in Washington that you could accuse of shadowy conspiracies to control the media, and they picked two women, and one of them is black (ooooh, I get it, the little girl in the TV show is cuban, so also a person of color?)? Considering the demographics of US politicians, yeah - that comes off a little prejudiced. But hey, maybe it's a huuuuge coincidence. /shrug.

[derp_dee_derp]

funny how you didn't call out the OP and ask them for "some additional arguments backing" up their claim that the Iranian TV show was propaganda, but here you do when its American politicians.

Isn't that a bit hypocritical?

as for context, a good book on the subject is "manufacturing consent" by Noam Chomsky. In it he details how american media of all forms is used as a propaganda vehicle in order to shape and create the american public's politics.

The TV shows linked are just applications of that strategy.

[AWildC182]

Saying "what about that [falsely equivalent] thing over there, now read [HN meme book of the month]" isn't exactly a sound argument...

[derp_dee_derp]

pointing out hypocrisy is not a false equivalency, but nice try.

also, you calling a foundational work in propaganda theory a meme book isnt exactly a sound counter argument, either. Here, educate yourself: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Consent

[jessaustin]

Sometimes it seems that some people think it's "progressive" to criticize Chomsky...

[hindsightbias]

We’re so progressive today that only RT and EU media will have him on shows.

20 years ago, he was on “liberal” PBS all the time.

[AWildC182]

You're trying to spread misogynistic conspiracy theories and comparing that to Iranian propaganda... That's absolutely a false equivalency. You had a chance to make an argument to support your position but...

Everyone has been spamming "Manufacturing Consent" like crazy recently. Just telling people to read it doesn't support any argument, it's just an attempt to appear high-brow because Chomsky. You need to specify how Chomsky supports your argument.

[xerxex]

I bet you are a Fox News viewer demographic

[dang]

This sort of flamewar comment is unacceptable on HN, and I'm afraid you've posted like this in the past as well. Would you please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stop doing that on HN?