[onceUponADime]

This is something quite- interesting. The disconnect from felt reality to actual reality.

Capital punishment and brutal punishments never did deter the truely desperat, who are usually squeezed by society and physics. And yet, they continu existing.

https://www.dartmouth.edu/~chance/teaching_aids/books_articl...

Our brain creates a raging feeling, that demand pain to be treated out to percieved wrong doers.

That the wrongdoing might have been to set children in a world with no jobs, no future and no proper parenting, is ignored.

That it is applied without deterence or change of effect. Ignored.

Just a animal scratching a itch, no matter what.

[harimau777]

For sake of argument, what alternative would you advocate? It doesn't seem just for there to be neither restitution nor punishment.

[onceUponADime]

A sort of degrading, but non-lethal or permanent damaging punishment- something to please the inner monkey and then i would demand that every punishment be also taken by a innocent citizen in parallel. Without that- its just prison then reintegration into society..

After that i would remove the ability of the citizenry to influence the level of punishment, as this is a constant journey towards the death sentence with torture for all crimes no matter how petty.

[harimau777]

I'm not sure that I follow your reasoning. How would inflicting a punishment on an innocent person be justice?