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by elfexec 2337 days ago
> Can you give me an example of "media and establishment are repeatedly caught misleading the public"?

Look up every war we've been involved in. The media/establishment lied. Try Nayirah testimony if you want to get started. If you want more recent, look up the anti-venezuelan NYTimes piece by Joanna Hausmann, a minor youtuber. Why was she given a platform on the NYTimes? Oh because her father is an ousted former venezuelan central banker behind the coup attempts in venezuela. Did NYTimes mention this? Of course not. But then again, what more do we expect from the NYTimes which supported the first coup of Chavez. Why is an "objective" newspaper behind a coup attempt in a foreign country? Because the NYTimes was founded by bankers to support bankers interests.

Go look up the lies the media peddled on the syria war and the chemical attacks. Notice how they went quiet about that?

Look up the libya war. Look at the lies peddled about venezuela.

> My impression is the whole "media is lying" is a narrative furthered by Fox

That's because you watch too much CNN/MSNBC or read too much NYTimes/WashingtonPost. You have that impression because you've been brainwashed ( just like the poor fox news viewers you pity ). You aren't any better than what you disdain.

The "media is lying" is as old as the country.

"As for what is not true you will always find abundance in the newspapers." – Thomas Jefferson

"Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle." – Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson was a free speech proponent who hated the lying press.

We even have a famed period in history named for the lying press and journalists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism

These predate fox news by more than a hundred years. You can generally trust the media to tell the truth about innocuous or unimportant events. The media, especially the highly regarded ones, lie about important events.

So if you are getting important news from dyspotian 1984 sounding "authoritative sources", know that you are being lied to.