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by hndc 2336 days ago
It's as though you didn't even read the very article you linked
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It's as if you didn't read the comment I wrote and started foaming at the mouth at the chance to say RTFA as is HN tradition. (Or didn't read the article closely enough yourself)

He said explicitly, he used a debugger.

He came to understand the value of having a proper mental model of your code, but the comment I replied to said they had never used a debugger.

My comment was about the difference between knowing how to problem solve without a debugger, and straight up never having used it

There's nothing wrong with having more tools in your toolbox

> but the comment I replied to said they had never used a debugger.

Except it doesn't say that.

> This is a serious question because in 5+ years of programming I have never used a debuggers. The only time I used a debugger was when I was learning to program and to trace out for loops.

They're saying it themselves, "yeah technically once I used it when I was figuring out how for loops work".

I wouldn't say I've ever written a Brainfuck program even though once I messed around with a hello world on an online interpreter

Leave it to people here to say a comment doesn't say literally the exact words it says

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The spirit of multiple replies, not just mine is debuggers are an option you should at least be familiar with before tossing aside, even if you do end up not needing them

Except that is not the comment you replied to.

> I believe Rob Pike and Ken T are firmly in the 'add prints' and think camp rather than use a debugger so you're in good company.

And that comment doesn't make any mention of Rob Pike never having used a debugger.

Except it is because this is a comment chain...

None of our comments exist in a vacuum.

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Person A says: I never used a debugger

Person B replies: You're in company with Rob Pike on that

I reply to Person A and B: Yeah but even Rob Pike uses debuggers

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The fact I have to spell this out is appalling.

Hint: the word rather

It's a preference not an absolutism.