[panarky]

The "Max problem" is not the specific engineering defect that happened to manifest with the 737 Max.

Instead, the "Max problem" is the set of organizational, cultural and managerial issues that cut corners, misled regulators and prioritized profits over safety.

MCAS defects are not the problem, they're a symptom of the problem.

And these messages about the 777X are more symptoms of the same problem.

[lamontcg]

Yeah the problem with the Challenger explosion can either be diagnosed as O-rings or NASA culture.

The former clearly was not involved in the Columbia accident, the latter certainly still was.